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There's lots of fun stuff to do with RoseLine besides hiking to the top "because it's there"! The entries below suggest some interesting ways to explore your state, your mountains, and your surroundings that you might not have thought of. A few have detailed, easy to follow instructions that lead you through the process of answering the question. Some have pretty specific answers and others are difficult and left for you to explore. Some involve other tools - like spreadsheets. If you like puzzles you might skip the instructions and figure them out yourself. If you have a fun way to use RoseLine or a cool solution to one of the questions below, send a description to us (at ) and we'll add it here. 
bullet What are the names of all those peaks I can see from my living room window?
bulletWhat are the names of the peaks in that picture?
bulletCan I see my house from X?
bulletFrom which summits in Washington can I see the Space Needle?
bulletFrom which peaks in the I-90 corridor can I see the Space Needle?
bullet How to create a list of every peak in my state sorted by elevation?
Wow! I just figured out that Mount Si is the 2000th highest peak in Washington !
bulletIf that big peak isn't Mount Olympus (then which one is!?) and where can I go to see it?
bulletWhich peaks in Oregon are NOT visible from the summit of Mount Hood?
bullet How to make a list of peaks in Washington from which I can see Mount Rainier?
bulletFrom where in Oregon can I see Mount Shasta (in California)?
bulletHow high do you have to go in order to be able to see every peak in the state?
bulletWhich islands in the San Juans am I seeing?
bullet What is that "thing" blocking my view of summit X?

What are the names of all those peaks I can see from my living room window?

Haven't you wondered what are all those peaks you can see from your living room window, friend's magnificent office view, your favorite park, that bend in the road... OK. This is pretty straight forward.

bulletGet the latitude and longitude for your home - here's a cool web site ( that will convert a street address to latitude and longitude. If that doesn't work for you, see here.
bulletStart the RoseLine program on your local computer
bulletCreate a custom viewpoint for your home.  see instructions here.
bulletType the name of your new custom viewpoint in the box labeled "enter viewpoint" and press "Show names of visible summits".
bulletNow click the "Reset Filters" button just so we start with the filters in a known configuration.
bulletSet the Heading filter to match the direction you're looking and estimate the field of view
bulletYou need to know what direction (in degrees) you are looking from your viewpoint (living room window) e.g. due East is 90. We'll estimate that your field of view is about 60 degrees (30 degrees either side of due east is a range of 60 - 120 degrees) but you can experiment with this.
bulletmake sure the checkbox "Enable" under "Heading Filter" is checked.
bulletWe'll set the heading filter according to our example above but use your own numbers.
bulletSet the Heading Filter range to say "60 clockwise to 120" by clicking the little up/down arrows. (hint: you can hold down the arrow)
bulletThe Visible Targets list now contains the 40 most prominent peaks as seen from your viewpoint.
bulletThe list is sorted alphabetically but if you click on the header labeled "Heading" in the Visible Targets list it will sort them clockwise according to the compass - or left to right across your living room window.

How to make a list of peaks in Washington from which I can see Mount Rainier?

This would seem to be an easy task but in fact it's not. With a pointy mountain you can always easily answer the question "Which mountains can see the point peak?" by simply choosing the pointy peak as your viewpoint and getting the list of visible peaks. Pointy peaks have the advantage that from their summit you can see unobstructed in all directions - so any peak you can see from there can also see you. Makes sense...

The problem with Rainier is that it isn't pointy. It's bulk is so large that there is no single spot on or near it's summit where you have an unobstructed view in all direction. The mountain's own bulk blocks the view. So... what to do?

My general suggestion for a solution: Mount Rainier has several canned viewpoints that ring the summit. Presumably the union of the visible peaks from each of these viewpoints is the set of peaks from which Rainier is visible.  I

I'm not sure exactly how to do this but I'm guessing that you can use the program to output several CSV files for each of those viewpoints. Read those CSV files into your favorite spreadsheet program and use your spreadsheet knowledge to merge those lists and remove duplicates.  Voila!

What is that "thing" blocking my view of summit X?

Have you ever wondered just what is the pass/gap/mountain/lump/THING? that is blocking what it is you're looking at? If you have National Geographic TOPO installed you can find out.

bulletCreate a RoseLine map for TOPO that includes your viewpoint and the mostly obscured target.
bulletIn TOPO, make sure you have the "route tool" selected and right click on the Rose Line from your viewpoint to the mostly obscured target.
bulletSelect "Build Profile"
bulletOn the TOPO map, navigate to level 5 (ie. zoom in to the maximum)
bulletNow on the profile you just built you can kind of draw a mental line-of-sight from your viewpoint (on the left) to the target (on the right). As you move the mouse cursor over the profile you'll see the yellow cross-hairs match your movement.
bulletSome where between the viewpoint and the target there will be a place where the profile jumps up and almost touches your mental line-of-sight. click on that spot and the TOPO map will automatically navigate to the corresponding place. You should now be able to see on the map the ridge/gap/mountain or whatever that was blocking the view at that spot.

How to create a list of every peak in my state sorted by elevation?
Wow! I just figured out that Mount Si is the 2000th highest peak in Washington !

Hmmm. I thought this was easy at first but then... it got more complicated

bulletOK. Create a custom viewpoint (see how here) that is approximately in the middle of your state and 2500000 feet high.
bulletYes...  that's 50 miles.
bulletThen select that high viewpoint and press "Show names of visible summits" to calculate what peaks are visible.
bulletPress "Reset Filters" just so the filters are in a known state
bulletUncheck the checkbox labeled "Limit display to nn best peaks" (in the upper right)
bulletCheck "binoculars" (lower right)
bulletThe Visible Targets list now contains ALL the peaks in the state.
bulletYou can now sort the Visible Target list and peruse the data.
bulletChoose "Output format" of text and press generate to see the list in notepad. You could also select the CSV output format and look at the list in a spreadsheet.

Ok, so there's a couple problems with this. First, the list of peaks also includes lots of peaks in the neighboring states. You'll need to remove them by sorting on the "Region" column (in RoseLine or in your spreadsheet) and eventually deleting the entries you don't want.

And actually the list only contains the mountains with elevations greater than 3500 feet...

Note that the list also contains "custom viewpoints" which can be recognized by the fact that they have "User" in the "region" column of the Visible Targets list.  Remove them as described above with judicious sorting and deleting.

Once you have the list in a spreadsheet it's pretty easy to sort on the elevation column and then find the Mount Si (in Washington) is the 2000th highest peak in the state.


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