Q: Hmmm. 40 "best" peaks.
What do you mean by "best"?
A: The program gives a
numerical "prominence" score to each peak. The higher scores are given to peaks
that stick up more. We measure the vertical angle from the top of a peak to
where it is obscured by the foreground, so generally closer peaks stand out more
and make the "best" list. We also give higher scores to taller, distant
mountains that tend to stand out amongst the others.
Q: Help! There are too many peaks !
A: Some viewpoints can see over a 1000 distant
summits. Play with the filter settings to limit the number of visible summits.
If you find that you've gotten "lost" in the filters and there are too many
peaks, press the "Reset Filters" button. The display will be reset to the 40
Q: Why do some peaks have a state and county in
brackets following their name?
A: The database contains all the peak names from
your state plus an approximate 150 mile extension into the surrounding states.
If a peak's name is not unique within that group, then the state and county
where the peak resides are added to distinguish them. If the name is still not
unique then "_1" or "_2" is appended to the name.
Q: What is the difference between "naked eye"
viewing and "binocular" viewing?
A: Mountains that only stick up a small amount may
technically be visible but for practical purposes are probably not (given
weather, haze, lighting, and the accuracy of the human eye). The cutoff is
fairly arbitrary. See the documentation for further description. When you select
"binocular" viewing the program will list mountains that stick up even the
tiniest amount above their surroundings.
Q: The Google map is slow to scroll and adjust.
A: The adjustment controls mainly allow you to
adjust the map for display and printing purposes. They aren't meant so much for
The Google map has disappeared and now I only see a little map covered by a big
A: Google limits the total different map requests
to about 1000 per day to avoid abuse of their mapping system. If you see a big
red 'X' you have exceeded that limit.
Q:The elevations you display for peaks don't
always seem to be correct.
A: The peak names and elevation data used by the
program are derived from USGS data. Some individual peak elevations are modified
to match the elevation data base and so may be different from other published
elevations. Sometimes the geographic community is not in agreement re the
elevation of a peak and sometimes the USGS data is simply in error.
Q: I can't find the peak I'm looking for in the
A: It's possible the peak may be recorded under a
different name or spelling. The peak list is not exhaustive and some peaks may
be missing. You can use the "Create Custom Viewpoint" button to add any missing
Q: I can't find the peak I'm looking for in the
Visible Targets list.
A: If you are pretty sure that a particular peak is
visible from your chosen viewpoint but it doesn't appear in the Visible Targets
list it is probably being excluded by the current filter settings. To make sure
that the list is showing you ALL the visible peaks, first click the "Reset
Filters" button. Check "binoculars". Uncheck "Limit display to nn best
peaks". The list will now include EVERY peak visible no matter how distant,
faint or obscure. Please note that minor summits below 3500 feet are never
included in the Visible Targets list.
Q: Where can I get the latitude and longitude
values to use to create a custom viewpoint?
A: The easiest way is to go to
http://www.maps.google.com and navigate
to your point of interest. You should zoom to the maximum level and then right
click on your viewpoint. Select "What's here?" and Google will put the latitude
and longitude values in the search box at the top of the screen. You can
cut/paste these values when you create your custom viewpoint.
Q: I thought latitude and longitude had degrees
and minutes and seconds?
A: They do. But an alternative format is decimal.
For instance a latitude of 48.51542 is the same as 48 degrees, 30 minutes and 56
seconds. When you create a custom viewpoint you can use either format. There are
other formats as well but these are the two that the program allows.
Q: The "Prominence greater than" filter never
seems to be enabled.
A: This filter is only enabled if you uncheck the
"Limit display to nn best peaks" checkbox in the upper right.
Q: OK I don't care whether they are hard to see,
I just want to know every single mountain that is visible.
A: Click the "Reset Filters" button. Check "binoculars".
Uncheck "Limit display to nn best peaks". The list will now include EVERY peak
visible no matter how distant, faint or obscure. Please note that minor
summits below 3500 feet are never included in the Visible Targets list.
Q: What does "[User]" mean when it appears after
a viewpoint name?
A: These are custom viewpoints. The program comes
with some predefined custom viewpoints and you can create more: Press the
"Create a custom viewpoint" button.
Q: I set the filter to show the 40 best but it
sometimes shows less than that?
A: The way the filter works is that it scores the
visible peaks and then shows the 40 with the highest scores. If the 40th peak
and the 41st peak have the same score it would result in 51 peaks displayed. So
in this particular case it shows peaks using the next best score which results
in a few less than 40 peaks.
Q: Is there any way to send a Google based map
A: Yes. When you create the Google map be sure to
click the checkbox labeled "make this map permanent". Click "generate" and when
the map appears in your browser you can "cut" the web address of the map. When
you compose an email you can paste that link and send it to someone. When the
email recipient clicks the link, they will see your map.
Q: I save the Google based map in my favorites
and come back later and it says it has expired?
A: The Google based maps that you create are
temporary unless you click the checkbox labeled "make this map permanent".
Otherwise, when you try to access the map later you will see a message telling
you that the map has expired.
Q: Is there support for other means of entering
latitude and longitude (universal grid coordinates etc.) and other datums.
A: the only latitude/longitude format used by the
program is decimal degrees. The only datum is NAD83
Q: How can I save the picture of a map?
A: Right click on the map itself and choose "Save
Q: How do I save a map?
A: Before you press the "Generate Output" button be
sure to click the checkbox labeled "Save this map permanently". This will cause
the map to be saved permanently on the RoseLineMap.com server. You must also be
sure to save a link to your map or you won't be able to reference the map at a
later time. User your browser save-favorite or save-bookmark feature to save a
link to the map. You can also simply cut/paste the web address of the map in
order to save it wherever you like.
Q: Can you show me a list of my saved maps?
A: There is no mechanism at this time to show you
your saved maps. You must manage your map collection by saving
favorites/bookmarks in your browser. You can also cut/paste the web
addresses of your maps and insert them in emails, on your desktop, in your file
Q: In the viewpoints list, I'm looking for a a
popular hiking destination and I can't find it.
A: The viewpoints list only contains summit names.
So any hiking destination that is not a summit will not be included. Also it's
possible that our peak list is incomplete. There are some non-summit viewpoints
included in the custom viewpoint list and you can add your hiking destination to
that list as well. Click the "Create a custom viewpoint" button.
Q: There are lots of mountains near my viewpoint
but the rose lines only show mountains that are far away?
A: The mostly like explanation is that the nearby
mountains have elevations less than 3500 feet. Minor peaks below 3500 feet are
not included among the Visible Targets. Also, you may have set your filter
settings to not show nearby peaks. Click the "Reset Filters" button.
Q: Hey my favorite mountain isn't in the list of
A: The viewpoint list is derived mostly from an
official USGS place names list. If your favorite mountain isn't on the list I
suggest you tell them <www.usgs.gov>.
Sometimes your peak may be listed under a different name or different spelling.
In the mean time you can use the "Create custom viewpoint" button to add your
own viewpoint to the list.
Q: I understand that minor peaks below 3500 feet
in elevation are not included in the Visible Targets list but my area of
interest only has relatively low level peaks. Is there a work-around?
A: Custom viewpoints are immune from the elevation
cutoff. So it may be a solution for you to create custom viewpoint for the
summits you are interested in.
Q: The peak I'm looking at
seems to only have visible targets on one side. Why is that?
A: There are a few reasons this could occur: 1) The
peaks on the empty side are all below 3500 feet elevation. 2) A high ridgeline
may be blocking the view in one direction. 3) the viewpoint is not on the
highest point and so the bulk of the mountain itself is blocking the calculation
of the view. If this is a custom viewpoint you need to reposition it on the
highest point. If it's a viewpoint included in the program then it is an error -
please report it to us at Thank
Q: I have National Geographic TOPO.EXE installed
but the option for TPO file output is disabled?
A: This means your TOPO.EXE installation is at
least a little incomplete. Run TOPO.EXE by itself just to make sure that works
ok. If it doesn't, uninstall and reinstall TOPO.EXE. If TOPO.EXE is working ok
then it means that the TPO file extension isn't associated with the TOPO.EXE
program. This means that windows doesn't know what to do with files whose
filename ends with .TPO. This is easily fixed.
If you are using Vista or XP:
Right click on any already existing TPO file
Choose the "general" tab
Near the top where it says "Opens with" click the "change" button.
browse to your TOPO.EXE program install point (probably c:\program files\TOPO!)
and click on the TOPO program executable file (TOPO.EXE).
Press OK twice and you're done.
Restart Rose.exe and the TPO option should now be available
For more detailed instructions see:
If you are using XP:
First you must set your system to display extensions:
- Open My Computer or Windows Explorer.
- On the Tools menu, click
- Click the View tab.
- In the Advanced settings box, click to
clear the Hide extensions for known file types
- Click OK.
Now follow these steps to associate TOPO.EXE with the TPO extension.
- Open Windows Explorer by right-clicking the Start
button, and then click Explore.
- Click a folder that contains an existing TPO file.
- Right-click the TPO file and, depending on the programs installed on your
computer, complete one of the following steps: